Damasko ή Sinn?
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Damasko ή Sinn?
Η στεφάνη του Νταμάσκο είναι αεροπορική. Δείχνει ώρες. Ένα άλλο πλεονέκτημά του, τα συνεχόμενα δεύτερα.
Επίσης η πάσα του είναι επισκληρημένη αε όλο το βάθος της κι όχι μόνο επιφανειακά.
Σε λίγο θα παρουσιασει την πρώτη της μηχανή.
Επίσης η πάσα του είναι επισκληρημένη αε όλο το βάθος της κι όχι μόνο επιφανειακά.
Σε λίγο θα παρουσιασει την πρώτη της μηχανή.
Δημήτρης - Θεσσαλονίκη
ναι, αλλα κανε κ κανα θεματακι ρε τζωρτζη, γιατι εχουμε βαρεθει!!
400 το αγορασες...ο λαδεμπορας...
αφου δεν το χεις το ποσταρισμα,παμε για ρακετες!
Re: Top 5 pilot watches
Μια χαρα..δεν την ειχα προσεξει καθολου σαν εταιρια... ...
Σε σχεση με τη sinn --(που εχω μια ιδεα και μου αρεσουν αρκετα μοντελα της)--για τη damasko τι εχετε να πειτε...
Απο θεμα ποιοτητας-προδιαγραφων..??
Το κακο με ρολογια που δεν εχουν αντιπροσωπο στη Ελλαδα ειναι,..πως οταν ερθει η ωρα για σερβις η οτιδήποτε πρεπει να τρεχεις εξω..
...ετσι δεν ειναι..
Σε σχεση με τη sinn --(που εχω μια ιδεα και μου αρεσουν αρκετα μοντελα της)--για τη damasko τι εχετε να πειτε...
Απο θεμα ποιοτητας-προδιαγραφων..??
Το κακο με ρολογια που δεν εχουν αντιπροσωπο στη Ελλαδα ειναι,..πως οταν ερθει η ωρα για σερβις η οτιδήποτε πρεπει να τρεχεις εξω..
...ετσι δεν ειναι..
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Re: Top 5 pilot watches
Aν ειναι μια μηχανη π.χ οπως την ΕΤΑ μπορει να στην κανει service οποιοσδηποτε ωρολογοποιος ασχετα αν δεν υπαρχει αντιπροσωπεια.
Αυτο συμβαινει και με αλλες κοινες μηχανες φανταζομαι.
Αυτο συμβαινει και με αλλες κοινες μηχανες φανταζομαι.
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Re: Damasko ή Sinn?
http://www.damasko.de/
Η Damasko εχει μονο δυο μοντελα προς το παρον στη γκαμα.
-Το DC56(και DC57 για το full-lume καντραν).Τιμη 1250 euro.
Case
Stainless steel, nickel-free, bead-blasted
Ice-hardened to guaranteed 60 HRC* or 710 Vickers
Integrated anti-magnetic inner cage, anti-magnetic to 80,000 A/m or 100 mT
Sapphire crystal with anti-reflective coating on both sides, AR coating on the underside only available on special request
Crystal gasket resistant to UV radiation
Solid screw back with O-ring VitonT gasket
All gaskets made from VitonT which offers a premium chemical resistance and which is superior to most other materials used in the watch industry
New patented crown and pusher system, crown stem and pusher shafts are machined with minimal tolerances and leave almost no gap between pusher/crown and case, but nevertheless do not scratch. Crown and pushers are also equipped with a permanent lubrication cell which eliminates friction. (Self lubricating crown and pushers).
Screw-down crown with protective shoulders
Crown, pushers, and tubes hardened to 60 HRC
Water resistant to 10 bars/100 metres according to DIN 8310
Crystal has a secure fit even in case of a sudden negative pressure
*HRC - The Rockwell Hardness Test presses a steel or diamond hemisphere-conical penetrator against a test specimen and measures the resulting indentation depth as a gauge of the specimen hardness. The harder the material, the higher the HR reading. The special martensitic steel used for the cases of Damasko watches is four times harder than standard 316L stainless steel. You can read more about the watch case construction here.
Dial
Dial completely coated with luminous compound LuminovaT C1 (white)
Numbers, hour markers and triangle at 12 painted in matt black
Hands
All hands including the chronograph hands painted in matt black
Movement
Valjoux 7750
self-winding, mechanical movement
25 jewels
28,800 bph
Shockproof according to DIN 8308
Anti-magnetic according to DIN 8309
Adjusted to COSC performance (but not certified)
Hour, minute, permanent small sweep second
Day/Date window with new, modified position
Chronograph: 12-hour counter and 30-minute counter on sub-dials
central 60-second counter
Dimensions
Diameter: 40.00 mm
Overall height: 13.70 mm
Lug width: 20.00 mm
Weight without strap: 86 grams
Strap and Bracelet
High quality water resistant leather strap (available in black or brown with contrast stitching)
Bead blasted steel buckle
Solid, bead-blasted screwed solid-end-link bracelet made from the same hardened steel (availability and price to be advised), 22 mm and 20 mm versions will fit any Damasko watch
Supplied in a Damasko box and with two years manufacturer's warranty. Engraving of name or name and date is available as an optional extra only at the time of purchase of the watch.
-Το DC66(και DC67 για full-lume καντραν).Τιμη 1700 euro.
-The DC66 is the flagship of the range and is available with either an elapsed time bezel or a 12 hour bezel, enabling time to be displayed in a second timezone.
Currently undergoing approval trials with government and military departments.
Case
Stainless steel, nickel-free, bead-blasted
Ice-hardened to guaranteed 60 HRC1 or 710 Vickers
Integrated anti-magnetic inner cage, anti-magnetic to 80,000 A/m or 100 mT
Sapphire crystal with anti-reflective coating on both sides, AR coating on the underside only available on special request
Crystal gasket resistant to UV radiation
Solid screw back with O-ring VitonT gasket
All gaskets made from VitonT which offers a premium chemical resistance and which is superior to most other materials used in the watch industry
New patented crown and pusher system, crown stem and pusher shafts are machined with minimal tolerances and leave almost no gap between pusher/crown and case, but nevertheless do not scratch. Crown and pushers are also equipped with a permanent lubrication cell which eliminates friction. (Self lubricating crown and pushers).
Screw-down crown with protective shoulders
Crown, pushers, and tubes hardened to 60 HRC
Hardened bi-directional rotating bezel with patented ceramic ratchet elements2
Innovative hardened diamond coated scratchproof bezel insert with sealed luminous dot
Water resistant to 10 bars/100 metres according to DIN 8310
Crystal has a secure fit even in case of a sudden negative pressure
Stainless Steel - 60 Rockwell - Nickel-Free - Shock Resistant - Anti-Magnetic 100 mT (milli-TESLA, equivalent 80,000 A/m) - 100 metres Water Resistant
Bezel 60 Rockwell - Bezel Insert 60 Rockwell/PVD 3300 Vickers - Sapphire Crystal
Ceramic Ratchet Elements - Self Lubricating Pusher and Crown Seals
1HRC - The Rockwell Hardness Test presses a steel or diamond hemisphere-conical penetrator against a test specimen and measures the resulting indentation depth as a gauge of the specimen hardness. The harder the material, the higher the HR reading. The special martensitic steel used for the cases of Damasko watches is four times harder than standard 316L stainless steel. You can read more about the watch case construction here.
2All metal parts of the bezel are machined to tolerances of 1000th mm from the patented ice-hardened martensitic steel. The bezel insert is not a thin alloy sheet but a thick CNC machined part with zero tolerances. The hardened inlay is polished, deeply engraved and coated with a PVD layer. This coating cannot be compared with the cosmetic PVD layers found throughout the watch industry, Damasko uses an extra-thick 5-6 micron. Cosmetic coatings are 0.3-0.8 microns, tool coatings are 2 - 4.5 microns. The key hardness of the Damasko PVD layer is 3300 HV (Vickers). Combined with the superbly hard substrate material, this results in a truly scratch-resistant bezel.
The bi-directional bezel mechanism has three large ceramic elements which are supported by three nitrogen hardened, diamond coated springs. This system works with 100% precision whilst ensuring an ultra-smooth action with a pleasing, positive "click". The whole bezel assembly is sealed against the ingress of dust, moisture, etc with the patented VitonT gasket which is additionally coated with a wear resistant PTFE layer to ensure a minimal friction coefficient without the necessity for additional lubrication.
Dial
Matt black with white numerals
Hour markers and triangle at 12 coated with luminous compound LuminovaT C1 (white)
Hands
The minute and hour hands are painted in matt black with luminous compound LuminovaT C1 (white)
Movement
Valjoux 7750
self-winding, mechanical movement
25 jewels
28,800 bph
Shockproof according to DIN 8308
Anti-magnetic according to DIN 8309
Adjusted to COSC performance (but not certified)
Hour, minute, permanent small sweep second
Day/Date window with new, modified position
Chronograph: 12-hour counter and 30-minute counter on sub-dials
central 60-second counter
Dimensions
Case diameter:42.00 mm
Overall diameter including the bezel: 43.80 mm
Overall height: 13.70 mm
Lug width: 22.00 mm
Weight without strap: 106 grams
Strap and Bracelet
High quality water resistant leather strap (available in black or brown with contrast stitching)
Bead blasted steel buckle
Solid, bead-blasted screwed solid-end-link bracelet made from the same hardened steel (availability and price to be advised), 22 mm and 20 mm versions will fit any Damasko watch
Supplied in Damasko box and with two years manufacturer's warranty. Engraving of name or name and date is available as an optional extra only at the time of purchase of the watch.
Η Damasko εχει μονο δυο μοντελα προς το παρον στη γκαμα.
-Το DC56(και DC57 για το full-lume καντραν).Τιμη 1250 euro.
Case
Stainless steel, nickel-free, bead-blasted
Ice-hardened to guaranteed 60 HRC* or 710 Vickers
Integrated anti-magnetic inner cage, anti-magnetic to 80,000 A/m or 100 mT
Sapphire crystal with anti-reflective coating on both sides, AR coating on the underside only available on special request
Crystal gasket resistant to UV radiation
Solid screw back with O-ring VitonT gasket
All gaskets made from VitonT which offers a premium chemical resistance and which is superior to most other materials used in the watch industry
New patented crown and pusher system, crown stem and pusher shafts are machined with minimal tolerances and leave almost no gap between pusher/crown and case, but nevertheless do not scratch. Crown and pushers are also equipped with a permanent lubrication cell which eliminates friction. (Self lubricating crown and pushers).
Screw-down crown with protective shoulders
Crown, pushers, and tubes hardened to 60 HRC
Water resistant to 10 bars/100 metres according to DIN 8310
Crystal has a secure fit even in case of a sudden negative pressure
*HRC - The Rockwell Hardness Test presses a steel or diamond hemisphere-conical penetrator against a test specimen and measures the resulting indentation depth as a gauge of the specimen hardness. The harder the material, the higher the HR reading. The special martensitic steel used for the cases of Damasko watches is four times harder than standard 316L stainless steel. You can read more about the watch case construction here.
Dial
Dial completely coated with luminous compound LuminovaT C1 (white)
Numbers, hour markers and triangle at 12 painted in matt black
Hands
All hands including the chronograph hands painted in matt black
Movement
Valjoux 7750
self-winding, mechanical movement
25 jewels
28,800 bph
Shockproof according to DIN 8308
Anti-magnetic according to DIN 8309
Adjusted to COSC performance (but not certified)
Hour, minute, permanent small sweep second
Day/Date window with new, modified position
Chronograph: 12-hour counter and 30-minute counter on sub-dials
central 60-second counter
Dimensions
Diameter: 40.00 mm
Overall height: 13.70 mm
Lug width: 20.00 mm
Weight without strap: 86 grams
Strap and Bracelet
High quality water resistant leather strap (available in black or brown with contrast stitching)
Bead blasted steel buckle
Solid, bead-blasted screwed solid-end-link bracelet made from the same hardened steel (availability and price to be advised), 22 mm and 20 mm versions will fit any Damasko watch
Supplied in a Damasko box and with two years manufacturer's warranty. Engraving of name or name and date is available as an optional extra only at the time of purchase of the watch.
-Το DC66(και DC67 για full-lume καντραν).Τιμη 1700 euro.
-The DC66 is the flagship of the range and is available with either an elapsed time bezel or a 12 hour bezel, enabling time to be displayed in a second timezone.
Currently undergoing approval trials with government and military departments.
Case
Stainless steel, nickel-free, bead-blasted
Ice-hardened to guaranteed 60 HRC1 or 710 Vickers
Integrated anti-magnetic inner cage, anti-magnetic to 80,000 A/m or 100 mT
Sapphire crystal with anti-reflective coating on both sides, AR coating on the underside only available on special request
Crystal gasket resistant to UV radiation
Solid screw back with O-ring VitonT gasket
All gaskets made from VitonT which offers a premium chemical resistance and which is superior to most other materials used in the watch industry
New patented crown and pusher system, crown stem and pusher shafts are machined with minimal tolerances and leave almost no gap between pusher/crown and case, but nevertheless do not scratch. Crown and pushers are also equipped with a permanent lubrication cell which eliminates friction. (Self lubricating crown and pushers).
Screw-down crown with protective shoulders
Crown, pushers, and tubes hardened to 60 HRC
Hardened bi-directional rotating bezel with patented ceramic ratchet elements2
Innovative hardened diamond coated scratchproof bezel insert with sealed luminous dot
Water resistant to 10 bars/100 metres according to DIN 8310
Crystal has a secure fit even in case of a sudden negative pressure
Stainless Steel - 60 Rockwell - Nickel-Free - Shock Resistant - Anti-Magnetic 100 mT (milli-TESLA, equivalent 80,000 A/m) - 100 metres Water Resistant
Bezel 60 Rockwell - Bezel Insert 60 Rockwell/PVD 3300 Vickers - Sapphire Crystal
Ceramic Ratchet Elements - Self Lubricating Pusher and Crown Seals
1HRC - The Rockwell Hardness Test presses a steel or diamond hemisphere-conical penetrator against a test specimen and measures the resulting indentation depth as a gauge of the specimen hardness. The harder the material, the higher the HR reading. The special martensitic steel used for the cases of Damasko watches is four times harder than standard 316L stainless steel. You can read more about the watch case construction here.
2All metal parts of the bezel are machined to tolerances of 1000th mm from the patented ice-hardened martensitic steel. The bezel insert is not a thin alloy sheet but a thick CNC machined part with zero tolerances. The hardened inlay is polished, deeply engraved and coated with a PVD layer. This coating cannot be compared with the cosmetic PVD layers found throughout the watch industry, Damasko uses an extra-thick 5-6 micron. Cosmetic coatings are 0.3-0.8 microns, tool coatings are 2 - 4.5 microns. The key hardness of the Damasko PVD layer is 3300 HV (Vickers). Combined with the superbly hard substrate material, this results in a truly scratch-resistant bezel.
The bi-directional bezel mechanism has three large ceramic elements which are supported by three nitrogen hardened, diamond coated springs. This system works with 100% precision whilst ensuring an ultra-smooth action with a pleasing, positive "click". The whole bezel assembly is sealed against the ingress of dust, moisture, etc with the patented VitonT gasket which is additionally coated with a wear resistant PTFE layer to ensure a minimal friction coefficient without the necessity for additional lubrication.
Dial
Matt black with white numerals
Hour markers and triangle at 12 coated with luminous compound LuminovaT C1 (white)
Hands
The minute and hour hands are painted in matt black with luminous compound LuminovaT C1 (white)
Movement
Valjoux 7750
self-winding, mechanical movement
25 jewels
28,800 bph
Shockproof according to DIN 8308
Anti-magnetic according to DIN 8309
Adjusted to COSC performance (but not certified)
Hour, minute, permanent small sweep second
Day/Date window with new, modified position
Chronograph: 12-hour counter and 30-minute counter on sub-dials
central 60-second counter
Dimensions
Case diameter:42.00 mm
Overall diameter including the bezel: 43.80 mm
Overall height: 13.70 mm
Lug width: 22.00 mm
Weight without strap: 106 grams
Strap and Bracelet
High quality water resistant leather strap (available in black or brown with contrast stitching)
Bead blasted steel buckle
Solid, bead-blasted screwed solid-end-link bracelet made from the same hardened steel (availability and price to be advised), 22 mm and 20 mm versions will fit any Damasko watch
Supplied in Damasko box and with two years manufacturer's warranty. Engraving of name or name and date is available as an optional extra only at the time of purchase of the watch.
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Re: Damasko ή Sinn?
Σωστα,ρυθμισμενο σε επιπεδα cosc απο την εταιρεια,αλλα χωρις την επισημη πιστοποιηση.Θα ελεγε καποιος οτι αυτο ειναι λιγο αυθαιρετο,αλλα ελα που ολοι οσοι εχουν Damasko εχουν να λενε για την ακριβεια και τη σταθεροτητα του ρολογιου...snapper έγραψε:Το συγκεκριμενο εχει την valjoux 7750 οπως ειδα....
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Re: Damasko ή Sinn?
Ενδιαφερον και εκει φαινεται να εχει επικεντρωσει ολες τις προσπαθειες της.Ηταν αλλωστε απ'οτι λεγεται και ο λογος που καταργησαν το DA36-37...Blackbird έγραψε:Σε λίγο θα παρουσιασει την πρώτη της μηχανή.
http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?p=2442833
Ψάχνω για το τέλειο ρολόι...ελπίζω να μην το βρω ποτέ!
Re: Damasko ή Sinn?
Πολυ ωραια Θοδωρη.... ...
....αλλα μου φαινεται η sinn ειναι sinn..
ισως το ονομα που εχει κανει,μεγαλυτερη παραγωγη,μοντελα για ολους,πολυ καλη ποιοτητα κατασκευης,και ρολογια εργαλεια'''
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....αλλα μου φαινεται η sinn ειναι sinn..
ισως το ονομα που εχει κανει,μεγαλυτερη παραγωγη,μοντελα για ολους,πολυ καλη ποιοτητα κατασκευης,και ρολογια εργαλεια'''
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Re: Damasko ή Sinn?
Η sinn εχει ολοκληρωμενη γκαμα και σαφως μεγαλυτερη βαση πελατων.
Παντως αυτα τα δυο μοντελα που εχει η Damasko ειναι σημαντικο οτι τα φτιαχνει καλά και δεν ξερω αν τα αντιστοχα sinn μοντελα υπερτερουν καπου.
Απο τιμες περιπου στα ιδια ειναι...
Παντως αυτα τα δυο μοντελα που εχει η Damasko ειναι σημαντικο οτι τα φτιαχνει καλά και δεν ξερω αν τα αντιστοχα sinn μοντελα υπερτερουν καπου.
Απο τιμες περιπου στα ιδια ειναι...
Ψάχνω για το τέλειο ρολόι...ελπίζω να μην το βρω ποτέ!